yesterday, jay carney said this is a dog bite man's story as we talk about health care but yet this is a big deal and we're learning more. is it accurate or wise i should say for the white house to downplay this as dog bite's man? >> i think they have to accept the fact this was a big screw up. i think new york mayor laguardia said when i make a mistake, it's a butte. this is something the president cares about more than anything in his legacy, the major contribution he has made to the social safety net. it will ultimately succeed, but it only succeed if he keeps his credibility. i think it's important as we go through this rocky period he is seen the man you go to. he always has to tell the whole truth. bobby kennedy used to say hang a lantern on your problem and let people know what your problem is so they will begin to trust you more. real quickly a yes or no. do you think the president needs to come out and talk more about this? >> no. i think he needs to be candid about the fact the issue is still this one. does this country take moral responsibility for the 40 million people wait